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“I applaud this innovative effort to come up with solutions for integrating the immigrants from the former Soviet Union (FSU). I do also have a few comments and questions, however:
To simply dismiss 1/3 of these immigrants (and their offspring) as “not Jewish� seems a bit harsh. Many would consider them “non-Halachic Jews� or “Patrilineal Jews� rather than “non-Jews� .
I’m open to correction, but doesn’t the Law of Return concern one Jewish grandparent (any), rather than one Jewish grandfather?
I don’t see this as a demographic time bomb, but rather as a sociological time bomb. These immigrants are not a threat to the nature of Israel in the same way as perhaps the Arab/Muslim and Haredi minorities are; they are more committed to Israel than either of the other minorities mentioned.
My opinion is that, rather then get even further enmeshed in religious issues, the state needs to take a step back. Israel needs to walk the talk and really become the Jewish AND democratic state it claims to be. The way to do this is to stop backing the claim of Orthodoxy to be the only authentic Judaism. All the major Jewish denominations (including and especially Masorti/Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist) should enjoy equal status, and all should be allowed to perform conversions recognized by the state.
This is the easiest demographic problem we have ever been faced with, and can be addressed in the space of one generation!
Regarding the “generous grants available to those who wish to learn in yeshivot� , this should come to an end. Perhaps one in a thousand should be studying Talmud full time, and they should be subsidized by their immediate communities, not society as a whole. The only exception should be those studying to become congregational rabbis in recognized institutions of higher learning.”
“I applaud this innovative effort to come up with solutions for integrating the immigrants from the former Soviet Union (FSU). I do also have a few comments and questions, however:
To simply dismiss 1/3 of these immigrants (and their offspring) as “not Jewish� seems a bit harsh. Many would consider them “non-Halachic Jews� or “Patrilineal Jews� rather than “non-Jews� .
I’m open to correction, but doesn’t the Law of Return concern one Jewish grandparent (any), rather than one Jewish grandfather?
I don’t see this as a demographic time bomb, but rather as a sociological time bomb. These immigrants are not a threat to the nature of Israel in the same way as perhaps the Arab/Muslim and Haredi minorities are; they are more committed to Israel than either of the other minorities mentioned.
My opinion is that, rather then get even further enmeshed in religious issues, the state needs to take a step back. Israel needs to walk the talk and really become the Jewish AND democratic state it claims to be. The way to do this is to stop backing the claim of Orthodoxy to be the only authentic Judaism. All the major Jewish denominations (including and especially Masorti/Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist) should enjoy equal status, and all should be allowed to perform conversions recognized by the state.
This is the easiest demographic problem we have ever been faced with, and can be addressed in the space of one generation!
Regarding the “generous grants available to those who wish to learn in yeshivot� , this should come to an end. Perhaps one in a thousand should be studying Talmud full time, and they should be subsidized by their immediate communities, not society as a whole. The only exception should be those studying to become congregational rabbis in recognized institutions of higher learning.” fd gf gdfg ds sdfsdf df
April 28, 2006 at 2:47 pm
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June 23, 2006 at 5:58 am
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March 26, 2008 at 10:03 am
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March 27, 2008 at 8:21 am
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April 4, 2008 at 11:27 am
“I applaud this innovative effort to come up with solutions for integrating the immigrants from the former Soviet Union (FSU). I do also have a few comments and questions, however:
To simply dismiss 1/3 of these immigrants (and their offspring) as “not Jewish� seems a bit harsh. Many would consider them “non-Halachic Jews� or “Patrilineal Jews� rather than “non-Jews� .
I’m open to correction, but doesn’t the Law of Return concern one Jewish grandparent (any), rather than one Jewish grandfather?
I don’t see this as a demographic time bomb, but rather as a sociological time bomb. These immigrants are not a threat to the nature of Israel in the same way as perhaps the Arab/Muslim and Haredi minorities are; they are more committed to Israel than either of the other minorities mentioned.
My opinion is that, rather then get even further enmeshed in religious issues, the state needs to take a step back. Israel needs to walk the talk and really become the Jewish AND democratic state it claims to be. The way to do this is to stop backing the claim of Orthodoxy to be the only authentic Judaism. All the major Jewish denominations (including and especially Masorti/Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist) should enjoy equal status, and all should be allowed to perform conversions recognized by the state.
This is the easiest demographic problem we have ever been faced with, and can be addressed in the space of one generation!
Regarding the “generous grants available to those who wish to learn in yeshivot� , this should come to an end. Perhaps one in a thousand should be studying Talmud full time, and they should be subsidized by their immediate communities, not society as a whole. The only exception should be those studying to become congregational rabbis in recognized institutions of higher learning.”
April 4, 2008 at 11:29 am
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April 4, 2008 at 11:31 am
“I applaud this innovative effort to come up with solutions for integrating the immigrants from the former Soviet Union (FSU). I do also have a few comments and questions, however:
To simply dismiss 1/3 of these immigrants (and their offspring) as “not Jewish� seems a bit harsh. Many would consider them “non-Halachic Jews� or “Patrilineal Jews� rather than “non-Jews� .
I’m open to correction, but doesn’t the Law of Return concern one Jewish grandparent (any), rather than one Jewish grandfather?
I don’t see this as a demographic time bomb, but rather as a sociological time bomb. These immigrants are not a threat to the nature of Israel in the same way as perhaps the Arab/Muslim and Haredi minorities are; they are more committed to Israel than either of the other minorities mentioned.
My opinion is that, rather then get even further enmeshed in religious issues, the state needs to take a step back. Israel needs to walk the talk and really become the Jewish AND democratic state it claims to be. The way to do this is to stop backing the claim of Orthodoxy to be the only authentic Judaism. All the major Jewish denominations (including and especially Masorti/Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist) should enjoy equal status, and all should be allowed to perform conversions recognized by the state.
This is the easiest demographic problem we have ever been faced with, and can be addressed in the space of one generation!
Regarding the “generous grants available to those who wish to learn in yeshivot� , this should come to an end. Perhaps one in a thousand should be studying Talmud full time, and they should be subsidized by their immediate communities, not society as a whole. The only exception should be those studying to become congregational rabbis in recognized institutions of higher learning.” fd gf gdfg ds sdfsdf df
September 26, 2008 at 12:50 pm
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January 12, 2009 at 1:18 pm
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